The arguments made in the two books discussed by Samuel boil down to Christian supersessionism 101. They could have been written in the 4th c or the 12th. The de-Judiazing of the Christian Bible was a project during the Nazi era, cf Susannah Heschel. The Eastern Christian communions to which most Palestinian/Arab Christians belong never renounced the deicide accusation as the Catholics did at Vatican 2. The Christian theologization of the I/P conflict is intractable and it unfortunately suffuses western discourse. Very depressing.
Thank you, Samuel, for exposing these theological fraudulent theories in support of a fraudulently-created death cult. Their way madness and bloodshed lie, since they are clearly theologically calling for the genocide of Israel, which also means the genocide of two million Christians. There have been no greater colonists and occupiers than Islamists, who would happily behead these theologians as “infidels,”probably executed by the “Palestinians” themselves.
Christian society has always wanted all Jews to mimic their favorite Jew, Jesus. Jews must turn the other cheek, wash the feet of their enemies, commit themselves to universal egalitarianism and forsake any worldly claims.
The Passion is the foundational ritual of Christianity and this is the narrative that all Jews have to face when Christians run out of patience with them and their stubborn particularism and their infuriating refusal to dissolve themselves into the larger streams of humanity. They must climb up on the cross, re-enact the Crucifixion and become the sacred scapegoat that redeems the world.
The position of Jews changes as well as the charges against them, but the dynamic seems to be eternal. Christians worship one dead Jew, they are ambivalent or hostile toward all the others.
„ Pathology“ is the last word and the only that matters. When will „they“ be finally thrown into mental institutions coz that“ s the only -but one- way to deal with them including Hasan Piker and the NYC mayor. Or for how many RInderknechts to appear shall we wait ? The only one other way has frequently been pointed out by Piker, Tlaib a.o. - why doesn“t it get applied on them ?
Something occurred to me just now (belatedly after my reading the post a while ago and making my first comment) as I’m working on a scholarly article. What makes the two books, and theology in this vein of Palestinian liberation, so absurd is that Christianity itself colonized Jewish scripture — calling it “the Old Testament.” The whole religion is practically theological colonialism in action.
To decolonize the Bible means that they have come to terms with their appropriation or usurpation of Tanakh, the concept of Israel (Christianity sees itself as verus Israel, the true Israel), the supersessionist imperative.
It’s another instance of inversion. I will write about this in a future Substack column. Mine is called Breaking through”…
“To elevate Palestine from a place and a people into a redemptive principle through which the biblical story itself must now be read.” Is that not precisely the shared sacred story of Jewish and American nationalism, i.e., actually existing Zionism? I’ve seen a lot of projection from both sides on the conflict, but my God, this is the ultimate example, which is saying a lot.
That being said, on the one hand I’ll readily concede that what you describe exists, and I deplore the invention of the Palestinian people no less than the invention of the Jewish people - both, by the way, by Zionism. But also, seriously, certainly granting that the majority of Palestinians ancestry is from Arabs who arrived in the Muslim conquest, a far greater share of Palestinian ancestry must be among the Ebionites who ultimately became Muslims than of any Jewish ethnicity from the first Galilean adherents of Rabbinic Judaism.
The arguments made in the two books discussed by Samuel boil down to Christian supersessionism 101. They could have been written in the 4th c or the 12th. The de-Judiazing of the Christian Bible was a project during the Nazi era, cf Susannah Heschel. The Eastern Christian communions to which most Palestinian/Arab Christians belong never renounced the deicide accusation as the Catholics did at Vatican 2. The Christian theologization of the I/P conflict is intractable and it unfortunately suffuses western discourse. Very depressing.
I’m so tired of people weaponizing my faith (Christianity) for their political purposes whether it’s the a far left or the Christian nationalist
crowd. My personal pet peeve is the crowd that deliberately misread history to fit their agenda.
Thank you, Samuel, for exposing these theological fraudulent theories in support of a fraudulently-created death cult. Their way madness and bloodshed lie, since they are clearly theologically calling for the genocide of Israel, which also means the genocide of two million Christians. There have been no greater colonists and occupiers than Islamists, who would happily behead these theologians as “infidels,”probably executed by the “Palestinians” themselves.
Shut up and go away you absolute nutjob.
Mainly this rubbish just raises Palestine to the level of a deity, Christ upon the Cross. It's idolatrous.
Sounds like theological confusion, making Israel a Christ-like figure to be crucified for the salvation of humanity.
Christian society has always wanted all Jews to mimic their favorite Jew, Jesus. Jews must turn the other cheek, wash the feet of their enemies, commit themselves to universal egalitarianism and forsake any worldly claims.
The Passion is the foundational ritual of Christianity and this is the narrative that all Jews have to face when Christians run out of patience with them and their stubborn particularism and their infuriating refusal to dissolve themselves into the larger streams of humanity. They must climb up on the cross, re-enact the Crucifixion and become the sacred scapegoat that redeems the world.
The position of Jews changes as well as the charges against them, but the dynamic seems to be eternal. Christians worship one dead Jew, they are ambivalent or hostile toward all the others.
Exactly.
This propaganda will be required reading in seminaries and university seminars
„ Pathology“ is the last word and the only that matters. When will „they“ be finally thrown into mental institutions coz that“ s the only -but one- way to deal with them including Hasan Piker and the NYC mayor. Or for how many RInderknechts to appear shall we wait ? The only one other way has frequently been pointed out by Piker, Tlaib a.o. - why doesn“t it get applied on them ?
Something occurred to me just now (belatedly after my reading the post a while ago and making my first comment) as I’m working on a scholarly article. What makes the two books, and theology in this vein of Palestinian liberation, so absurd is that Christianity itself colonized Jewish scripture — calling it “the Old Testament.” The whole religion is practically theological colonialism in action.
To decolonize the Bible means that they have come to terms with their appropriation or usurpation of Tanakh, the concept of Israel (Christianity sees itself as verus Israel, the true Israel), the supersessionist imperative.
It’s another instance of inversion. I will write about this in a future Substack column. Mine is called Breaking through”…
“To elevate Palestine from a place and a people into a redemptive principle through which the biblical story itself must now be read.” Is that not precisely the shared sacred story of Jewish and American nationalism, i.e., actually existing Zionism? I’ve seen a lot of projection from both sides on the conflict, but my God, this is the ultimate example, which is saying a lot.
That being said, on the one hand I’ll readily concede that what you describe exists, and I deplore the invention of the Palestinian people no less than the invention of the Jewish people - both, by the way, by Zionism. But also, seriously, certainly granting that the majority of Palestinians ancestry is from Arabs who arrived in the Muslim conquest, a far greater share of Palestinian ancestry must be among the Ebionites who ultimately became Muslims than of any Jewish ethnicity from the first Galilean adherents of Rabbinic Judaism.